That's not normal. [–]NusenPWitch[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (3 children). Is this correct? Don't get stuff with one thing guys! Life skilling has gear progression now. ... Higher Gathering Mastery increases the amount of basic materials you get when gathering, as well as the chance of gathering special and rare materials. Do not post descriptions, images, or videos of cheats, hacks, private servers, bots, payout selling, etc. Managed to make it with only spending 60millions. Prize Catch Harpoon Level +1. How this materializes in the special and rare mats I'd also like to know. of I may ask. Ty, [–]PelasommaOokOokSpin 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child), [–]Neon001 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (5 children), soft cap mastery which is exactly 1004 mastery. Prize Catch Harpoon Level +2. Let him spread misinformation. So look, I'm not gonna sit here and argue. How this materializes in the special and rare mats I'd also like to know. All Life Skill Mastery +10; Constant reduction of MP/WP/SP - Duration: 5 min. Assuming you have reached artisan 1 in gathering, your gathering mastery is then around 470. GOSH. I think the materials gathered will be very similar. At what point would the mastery start giving better results than silver+magic tools. [–]Anil2629 -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 months ago (6 children). [–]cucktex 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child), Its fine guys. That puts you at 92.8 + 63 = 155.8% for rare drops and 74.3 + 63 = 137.3% for special drops. Source for ecology gathering item drop rate increase. Now let's look at the chart in the first source. Now I bought grinding gear even i dont like grind, [–]NusenPWitch[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (17 children). you can’t have 10 small fences and 10 strong fences) and mix and match the different farms (eg. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. I'll look into that my self since you don't have a source. To be honest I was expecting around 70-80m/hour. You can then easily determine which level to aim for, so you can get a required ability or weapon. (Similar to softcap AP and DP, which is the point in which you need to start buying TET accessories or go PEN weapons and armor.) Gatherer’s Clothes: Loggia Gatherer’s Clothes Gathering Mastery +3 (up to +280 for PEN), Movement Speed +1 to +2. What is your skill. Below you will find how much Life Skill you need, in order to obtain the Life Mastery Level you desire. 200~699. On successful completion, you get about 25-40 milk depending on your gathering skill and RNG, but it will cost you 10 energy points. What your describing is NOT softcap. It became a part of BDO on 9-4-19. BDO Life Skill Ranks: All 10 Life Skills have a max of 7 ranks. Prize Catch Harpoon Level +3 LEVEL DOENST MATTER, from what i’ve traded. Softcap combat gear costs like 20-25B silver. And these pieces aren't really exponentially more expensive to make or buy than their predecessors, so I don't think you're in the hyperbolic part of the curve yet. i.e. Also, I'd love to have the breakpoints explained to me since the tables show a pretty decently linear progression. (4 x 2 = 8 for rings) + (4 x 2 = 8 for earrings) = 16. 1 Stats 1.1 Base stats 1.2 Per rank 2 Ranks Max HP +100 Max HP +100 (+200 at max rank) All accuracy +2% at max rank 100+ millions an hour, I call it good income. So you didn't see any improvement from silver+magic to 800 mastery? [–]UpvoteToGetSex 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago* (10 children). Imagine how people would react to a 200 AP player grinding pollys, buying a tet kzarka, going to hystria and complaining they aren't making any money so they sold the tet kzarka. A good ratio is 10% promotion/90% participation. Iirc, around 400 you see double procs, 750 you see triple procs and 1250 quadruple procs for base materials. I think you need at least 1000+ mastery for profit. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 16044 on r2-app-0bdc80aa8d6b76275 at 2020-12-03 03:07:08.127916+00:00 running a42a821 country code: FR. How much meat do you collect without the loggia gear for 100 energy now? Each tier of mastery you go through allows you to finish inventories worth of end products faster. Grinding is still better money than just gathering alone. I think there is room to argue that it's somewhat arbitrary and depends on whether one considers master 24 gathering easy to obtain. Lifeskills, mastery question gathering focus. You also only have 30 seconds to complete the minigame successfully. Just found this thread based on a search for gathering mastery breakpoints. Then again the difference is so negligible you might want to swap later on. Feel free leave some comments, likes and dislikes!Follow me on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/farmerforgood/ Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi4TN5K81j7LMZw-A14xQZw/join A new rank unlocks at each level between 55-60. 300 per 100 energy adds up pretty fast I think. After Guru 20 you get 10 mastery per level. You also get more crystals with mastery, you just got unlucky hours. * Depending on your Gathering Mastery your gathering item drop rate and gathering item extra acquisition rate will increase. So lower profit. It increases Gathering (Lumbering) Mastery. BDO Gathering Mastery Highlights: +Common items (up to +400%) +Special Items (up to +100%) +Rare Items (up to +85%) +Very Rare Items (up to +44.42%) 0% to +30% chance of not consuming Energy (reduced from +60% chance at Master 1 Gathering Life Skill) ... Dostter's Steel gathering tools. Family Inventory: Treasure items QoL change. [–]AleHaRotK 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children). Level? So if I get a loggia all tri would be a good starting point? Everybody has to start somewhere. all they had to do was reduce the % gains from mastery. Does having a higher skill level help getting to 650 mastery faster? ;). BDO Processing Mastery Highlights: Requires equipping one of 6 types of Processing Stone tools. - The gathering rate and amount of certain resources will increase based on your Gathering Mastery. Figure out what you like, and how hard you want to go. You must place the farm first or put it in your warehouse to be able to rent another. To make mastery and normal gathering even, we need 113 - 63 = 50% increased chance from mastery. [–]Neon001 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (3 children), The highest obtainable bracket after which one must pay literally billions per gear piece. max base mats gathered is 4 to start, but only shows up as a possible increase when you hit 50% (~400 mastery) for 6 mats. - How to obtain: > It can be produced by using an Alchemy Tool in your residence if you are at least Alchemy Skilled 1. Just looking at the mastery tables for gathering, it appears that all of the chances/amounts increase at roughly the same (barely nonlinear) rate, and the trend continues well past 1050. To be effective or have an increase which makes it worth it, you want to hit soft cap mastery which is exactly 1004 mastery at master 4 gathering. No Orange grade fish can be caught. Curios, is the 650 before or after you equip the non-magical tool? For instance, I know for fact that the game does not allow me to "graduate" from gathering a max 4 base mats to a max 5 - it goes straight to 6. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Then make another decision about future gear from there. You simply can’t overlook it, and by investing in your Cooking Gear, Level and Mastery, you can easily make 100 million silver per day, 200, or even more! You could alternatively aim for hitting master 14 gathering (For 1054) and then master 24 for (For 1104). Should give you an idea of roughly how many materials to expect at various levels. Ty for the answers. That's a total of 63%. Good stuff. Guys, it's actually amazing money per hour if you do lumbering. [–]Griback_ 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (5 children), 650 masteries point is mathematically the point where you want to switch to masteries tool, costumes and become better than the magic tools, [–]AleHaRotK 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children). Blue and Orange grade lifeskilling gear (geranoa and manos) are WAY more expensive than loggia. 45/50 (With the necklace and belt) = the exact same. 600,000. [–]AleHaRotK 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (0 children), [–]ilikebdo 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (8 children). Regarding your deconstruction of my hypothesis, all I can say is that I'm basing that on experience getting to my current mastery of 1105, but what I've posted is conjecture. Just like AP and DP bonuses there's no in between. (Less money per time before equity starts. I know for fact that the game does not allow me to "graduate" from gathering a max 4 base mats to a max 5 - it goes straight to 6. Added together that's a 113% increase in gathering item drop rate. [–]Anil2629 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (4 children). For some reason they only do it in evens, and frankly, I don't remember the game even doing max 10. I'm a lifeskill guy but I didnt like this mastery system. Below you will find how much Life Skill … The gathering and crafting system in Black Desert is very complex. - Effect; All Gathering Masteries +5; Movement Speed +1 Level - Enhancement Effect QuestionLifeskills, mastery question gathering focus (self.blackdesertonline). After that point it's referred to as "hardcap." Before mastery, the proper way to gather is with a magic tool (80% gathering chance), fig pie (3% gathering chance), life spirit stone (10% gathering chance), and then with ecology knowledge (Up to 20% gathering chance bonus). Also, I'd love to have the breakpoints explained to me since the tables show a pretty decently linear progression. Tried with 800 mastery, then sell all gathering gear because with lucky tools I had more profit. Exploring Gyfin Temple and found a stunningly beautiful secluded arena. See this build. With mastery tools you get 30% gathering chance (tool), 3% (pie), 10% (alchemy stone), and 20% (ecology). If you'd like a Twitch flair with a link to your stream, message the moderators. [–]NusenPWitch[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (2 children). Is it actually worth investing in more mastery or should I move onto other stuff in BDO? We need less idiots to flood the market, You won't need to worry about this idiot I mostly gather materials for self use. - Duration: 12:37. Don't you mean when you hit 25%+ (200 mastery) for 5 mats? 4 small fences and 6 strong fences). I'm not even gonna talk about Khan's heart because that's a rare drop and buying one is a few billion silver for a stupid 25 points. * For reference I am averaging 120m with M12 trading. Spam is not. 700~1199. Thanks for the work here, [–]NusenPWitch[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children), I take a look into this when I get home. Do not flame, troll, witchhunt, or harass players/staff or content on this subreddit. That would also make absolutely no sense. It became a part of BDO on 9-4-19. It would take ridiculous of time to pay off an EXPENSIVE (and not worth it) investment to even start profiting from equity, and the task doing so is not at all easy. I'd assume after right? [–]NusenPWitch[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (5 children). Softcap is the end point at which is gets ridiculously harder to progress any further. no, that nerf did not need to happen. /s "BETTER WASTE IT ON A BAD INVESTMENT.". What are you basing the softcap on? That's big. Crates have a fixed experience like if you would level up from lvl 1 to 2, one crate will give you 5exp, and so on, it’ll always give you 5exp but the gap for the total exp required will increase each level. If you want to spend money stupidly for hard minimal gains that's up to you. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: and join one of thousands of communities. Note: "gathering chance" = "gathering item drop rate". Let's do the math. Now using our first source, let's see where mastery and normal becomes =. [–]UpvoteToGetSex 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (4 children). i.e. Make yourself loggia tools, its cheap and good for beginning if you can't afford the Manos gear. [–]ilikebdo 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (6 children). Do not impersonate other users or official Kakao Community Managers or Game Masters. higher level hunting results in more damage (through better guns) and better chance of items during harvest (more loot slots) higher level training levels horses faster (More horse xp per tick/mini game proc). 36/40 = .9 = 90%, which mean's you pay more than 100% for a 10% increase on rings and earrings. A BDO rank boost will give you all these and more. Edit 2: Don't forget the Tier 3 or Tier 4 hedgehog for a 40% or 50% chance to proc double basic resources. Income was way better than gathering sap. Hope you like this video! [–]lightNRG 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (2 children). Free 150 stack, now 269 and counting Sadge. BDO Gathering With Mastery - Power level from Beginner to Artisan in Under an Hour - Duration: 9:51. aiRstylez 73,526 views. Not bad but less crystals. You have to do the lifeskill frequently to pay off the cost of what it takes to get the bonus of mastery. Your big bucks are safe. But it actually went better than I expected! Guys, it's actually amazing money per hour if you do lumbering. (E.G. NA GM response in the forum is: "After checking with the developers I can confirm this is 100% intended, there is a range for how much HP and MP are gained with each level to add variety between characters without giving too much of an advantage. Carta Gatherer’s Clothes Gathering Mastery +4 (up to 330 for PEN), Movement Speed +1 to +2. 800 mastery with loggia gear and tool is better than lucky tools, and it only gets better from there with more mastery. max base mats gathered is 4 to start, but only shows up as a possible increase when you hit 50% (~400 mastery) for 6 mats, 100% (~700) for 8 mats, 150% (~1050) for 10 mats, etc. I thought it jumped straight from 8 to 12, but I could be mis-remembering that. 2020 Gathering 2020 Cooking 2020 Processing Legacy BDO 18:25:07 Cooking Alchemy Nodes Imperial CP Table Byproducts Manos Crates LifeSkill XP Knowledge Your rate of hards/sharps/caphras/black gems slowly climb and somewhere before 1000 you can get double procs of those as well. Gathering Mastery really boosts the items you can obtain at later Gathering levels. As your basic Gathering Mastery is affected by Gathering level, the chance to not … Rules for posts and comments on the subreddit will be enforced by moderator discretion. Also keep in mind these are brackets. You're also really missing the point here. Manos Gatherer’s Clothes Gathering Mastery +5 (up to +400 for PEN), Movement Speed +1 to +3. Feel free to post or promote your original content, Twitch, or YouTube as long as you are an active member of this community. The total increase you get from going TET blue armor + tool with TRI blue accessories, to "TET Manos clothes, TET gathering tool, and full DUO accessories for around 14B" is extremely minimal and the cost is extremely high. BDO Nexus. Now let's look at the chart in the first source. Each one is great for its own reasons, and mastery really amps it up to the next level. I'm assuming this is because, despite the gathering amount increase going up linearly at each 50 points, you only see any difference when you hit certain thresholds. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. The benefits are seen even at begginer levels of processing, helping to speed up processing time. That's not something the majority of the players would consider "easy" nor "softcap." Second source, for proof of gathering profit numbers. For that 4 to 5 point increase you have to pay 1 bil per accessory (Roughly 600+mil more, MORE THAN TWICE THE PRICE). I don't even know how to respond to this level of elitist acting snobbery. I'm assuming this is because, despite the gathering amount increase going up linearly at each 50 points, you only see any difference when you hit certain thresholds. Currently as I look at the marketplace in game while I write this, blue accessories cost 400mil each for 36 (ring/earring) and 45 mastery (belt/necklace). A special lumbering axe created by infusing magical power into Manos stones, which can absorb any substance. That's interesting. Magic tools override mastery bonuses with fixed numbers, at 650 mastery magic tool numbers are worse than the ones you get from mastery. Yes, I'm also playing on MENA and maybe there are differences. So to examine this chart (Source 1) properly we need to understand some things. All exploits, cheats, and hacks should be reported to the Black Desert support team. 10 Mastery Points per level (up to 800 points) For example: if you are Master 11 in fishing, you will have a total of 305 Mastery Points (5 x 61). You need 750 mastery (51%) to hit that mark for special drops (Laila's petal, deep blue hoof root, etc). Is any skill level in particular I should aim for? I'm not much into lifeskills but I'm curious. I know we're hating on the cost of the new storage but is anyone else's OCD really triggered by the placement of the tabs? So as I promised, I thought now it's about a time to make this video - lumbering video! By buying a BDO rank boost, you … You're 20 points off from the next bracket and you still need exactly 4,925,000,000 silver (The exact current cost of [TET Manos armor + tool] - [TET Carta + Doster]) or master 8 gathering (which would almost put you in the top 29 gatherers in-game) to hit it. It increases Gathering Mastery. Every rank you get beyond beginner one gives you five mastery points up until you hit Guru 20. Gathering takes up energy but does give you experience and levels up your gathering skill. 0~199. Gather tips 2018 Black Desert Online. Yup, great starting point. Rendered by PID 16044 on r2-app-0bdc80aa8d6b76275 at 2020-12-03 03:07:08.127916+00:00 running a42a821 country code: FR. NPC Items are calculated by weight, total silver spent and level total profit made. The percentage shown in the graph I suppose. Start with the tri loggia and just life skill for a while. Is this correct? [–]TheFirstTimePro 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children), I’m not OP but that was extremely helpful and well explained. It is a completely fine starting point. Regardless of semantics it's foolish to push further than 1004 though because it does not pay off. It gets noticeably better the higher you go though. [–]ilikebdo 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child). In other words, you get the 80% drop chance from your magic tool, OR the drop rater increase from mastery. I'm all clarified! Gathering items yourself is much faster than using workers and some items such as crude stone, … That's what I started with. example: if at 1000 mastery you end up gathering 10% more after the energy nerf, then just make the value of the mastery 10% more gathered shit at that level instead of 150% more gathered shit … I think the easiest and cheapest way to do this is to simply gather, who would have thought. Estimate Time: 2.5 hrs – 3 hrs depending on efficiency and a little bit of rng Estimated silver per trip: 90-130m based on max inventory depending on trade level and a little bit of trade price rng. Currently I am artisan 4 gathering using only silver+3 + magic tools.